In Two Deep
How do couples navigate the agonies and ecstasies of romantic relationship? Join Lisa Blair and David Bedrick for an authentic, unscripted conversation as they dive into the world of emotional intimacy, conflict, and connection. Drawing on depth psychology, their work with clients around the world, and over 20 years together as a couple, they share wisdom, tips, and personal stories, always adding a dash of playfulness to the mix.
Episodes
25 episodes
25: Relationship Detox
What do you hold back in relationship? What parts of yourself do you censor? What do you not express? When do you focus on your inner work, your psychological issues, and NOT bring yourself forward in relationship? What ...
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Season 1
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Episode 25
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17:29
24: From Ice to Water: Making Conflict Fluid
Have you ever wondered whether there is anything deeper going on behind a simple conflict such as “You never take out the trash!”? In this episode, we explore a powerful tool for working through conflict based on the concepts of roles and role ...
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Season 1
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Episode 24
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34:26
23: Breaking Free: Unlearning Old Patterns
Patterns develop in our long-term relationships that can be very difficult to break. Oftentimes, these patterns are due to trauma (big or small) from our childhood leaving a hole of unmet needs that we bring into our adult relationships. We lon...
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Season 1
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Episode 23
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47:22
22: Beyond Eden: Exploring Maturity in Relationships
Somewhere deep inside us, we may dream that our "perfect" romantic relationship will be a kind of Eden—a safe space where we enter fully healed and are met with unconditional love from a partner who meets all of our needs. The problem is, roman...
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Season 1
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Episode 22
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41:00
21: "Stop Getting So Defensive!"
Ever find yourself or your partner getting defensive whenever you're having a conflict? In this episode, we unpack "defensiveness" and offer three cures: have regular fights with your inner critic so you don't project it on to your partner, cre...
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Season 1
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Episode 21
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37:40
20: The Walk & Talk: Finding Intimacy in the Midst of Conflict
How do you find intimacy together in the midst of a conflict, without re-escalating? In this episode, we explore what we call The Walk & Talk. Using an example from our own relationship, we model how to create spaciousness by walking side-b...
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Season 1
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Episode 20
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44:23
19: Conscious Connecting: Going Outside Your Comfort Zone
Forbidden communication. Uncomfortable topics. Self sovereignty. Taking the road less traveled. Emotional intimacy in relationship asks us to go outside our comfort zones, to go over edges in our identities and bring in feelings and...
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Season 1
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Episode 19
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42:49
18: New Year Dreaming in Relationship
Instead of focusing solely on the goals or intentions you’ve set forth for the new year, find out how your nighttime dreams can offer meaningful shifts for your intimate relationship. In this episode, Lisa and David each explore one of their re...
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Season 1
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Episode 18
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34:09
17: Is It Me or Is It My Partner? Exploring Our Inner "Ghosts"
Welcome back for Season 2! Let's jump right in. Many of us have internal voices that tell us things like “Don’t be selfish,” “Put your needs / impulses / desires away,” “Listen more,” “Share everything with your partner” or any num...
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Season 1
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Episode 17
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32:55
16: What We've Learned: Season 1 Finale!
Join us for the Season 1 finale where we pause to debrief and share our reflections on this co-creative podcast project. We unpack how we've addressed criticism (both inner and outer), how we've danced with our different communication styles bo...
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Season 1
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Episode 16
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48:38
15: Breaking Out of the Status Quo in Relationship
“Why do people break up, and then turn around and make up?” Al Green sings in “Let’s Stay Together." Is there an intelligence behind the cycle of coming together, coming apart, and then coming back together again?Yes, there is! In additi...
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Season 1
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Episode 15
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44:55
14: Clean Conflict: Directness & Vulnerability Part 2
Learn more about transforming conflict into intimacy. When is it too soon to say "I'm sorry?" How might your conflict style be different than your partner's? Why is it helpful to take a break during a fight? What does a resolution to a conflict...
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Season 1
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Episode 14
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49:08
13: Clean Conflict: Directness & Vulnerability Part 1
This week we explore what it means to practice "clean conflict"—making intimacy from conflict rather than painful messes that build scar tissue and resentment. Whether you tend to avoid conflict or you find yourself in the midst of difficult, p...
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Season 1
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Episode 13
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40:22
12: Relationship Dreaming for the New Year
The new year invites us to dream about our relationships. It offers us a distinctive opportunity to consider the roles we've been playing that need updating and the patterns that once served us but are now well-worn ruts longing for new pathway...
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Season 1
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Episode 12
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40:32
11: Emotional Intimacy Then & Now
We haven't always thought about emotional intimacy or our happiness in relationships in the ways we do today. Capitalism, sexism, and a culture that negates feelings have narrowed our vision of what it means to be close and connected. In this e...
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Season 1
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Episode 11
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45:10
10: Illness and Intimacy
Your partner is feeling unwell; or maybe you are. Can you create intimacy out of this experience? Is there a message that your body symptoms carry for your relationship? Is it time to reprioritize or begin a new path together? This week, with L...
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Season 1
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Episode 10
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35:23
9: Come Fly With Me! Relationships on Vacation
Ever take that vacation together that looked great on paper or in photos but left you feeling less than close and connected or fell short in meeting your individual needs? We have, too. Whether you’re the kind of couple who loves to see and do ...
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Season 1
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Episode 9
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39:37
8: Fierce & Tender: Speaking Your Truth in Relationship
We know you want to speak your truth, tell your partner what you think and feel. But, what if it causes hurt, conflict, misunderstanding, or a rift in your relationship? Listen in to this week's episode where we take a deep dive into the comple...
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Season 1
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Episode 8
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45:44
7: Unintended Communication
While our intended communication may say one thing, our bodies, moods, tones, and behavior may be saying another. Others notice it when our eyes roll, when we're looking at our phone instead of listening, or not doing what we said we would. We ...
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Season 1
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Episode 7
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46:50
6: What's a Successful Relationship, Anyway?
What does a "successful" relationship look like? Smiling faces on a holiday card with 2.2 kids and 1.7 cars; one where you always get along, never have conflict, and have sex at all the right times? This paradigm often leaves couples feel...
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Season 1
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Episode 6
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45:28
5: When Relationship Work is Inner Work
Ever wonder if it's "your stuff" or if it's actually an issue about your partner or your relationship? This week we unpack why you need to do your own inner work while in relationship. We highlight the three warning signs that indicate, "It's t...
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Season 1
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Episode 5
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44:18
4: Interpersonal Diversity: Learning to Dance Together
We all need to learn how to dance together around our differences—our interpersonal diversity (e.g., personality, communication style). In this episode, we explore the three phases of the dance: (1) accommodating & compromising (emphasizing...
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Season 1
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Episode 4
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44:08
3: Ghosts and Ancestors Part 2
In Part 2 of Ghosts and Ancestors, we discuss how two more types of negative parents impact our relationships: the abusive parent and the self-absorbed or narcissistic parent. We discuss three things people need to learn to break the pattern of...
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Season 1
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Episode 3
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40:03
2: Ghosts and Ancestors Part 1
When you feel like your partner is being overly critical of you, are you truly talking to your partner or are you actually talking to your negative parent? In this episode, we unpack the very common experience of confusing our partner with the ...
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Season 1
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Episode 2
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36:21